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Info from workshops in my country ? it is not enought ? you need signed confirmation from them or what. Every month several cars.
Here you must attach proof for each car:
- chassis number
- invoice with a description of the faults and parts that have been replaced
- owner's name with details and contact number so that the information can be verified
:eek: :D:D:D:D
 
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Here you must attach proof for each car:
- chassis number
- invoice with a description of the faults and parts that have been replaced
- owner's name with details and contact number so that the information can be verified
:eek: :D:D:D:D
The best will be bring the car directly infront the house with chain on the neck and from others cars in hand :D
 
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Info from workshops in my country ? it is not enought ? you need signed confirmation from them or what. Every month several cars.
Informazioni del mio paese dicono cose diverse.
Hai anche tu bisogno di conferme firmate?
Andiamo avanti è cerchiamo di dare informazioni che all'utenza oramai interessa poco sapere se le vetture interessate sono 10 o 20. Sparare numeri a caso (tanti o pochi che siano) è un esercizio fine a se stesso
 
Informazioni del mio paese dicono cose diverse.
Hai anche tu bisogno di conferme firmate?
Andiamo avanti è cerchiamo di dare informazioni che all'utenza oramai interessa poco sapere se le vetture interessate sono 10 o 20. Sparare numeri a caso (tanti o pochi che siano) è un esercizio fine a se stesso
Okey I understand that you have different story but I believe to my info and contacts in my country and owners from my country. I saw it on my own eyes that is like it is. And of course I have several videos photos, docu... drawings and technical spacs for parts. Believe or not. And here we have 2 groupe of people. 1 believe in my "infos" and second to your. Maybe we have also third and they believe in something complete different. Deal ?
We will wait for official info and solution but I´m sure that nothing will come... Because there is no problem ? No because just FCA technology and this engine will die with this generation of tonale... New generation will use PSA technology and platforms... same story like junior... And this "issue with timing" will be hiden under carpet... but this is another story with another issues... I also understand that lot of customers will never buy any alfa after this experience... but new customers will come of course and maybe not :-) It is up to each owner what he will feel and do... But in my opinion this is fatal problem in automotive in 21. century same like wet belt in PSA or Ford....
 
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Okey I understand that you have different story but I believe to my info and contacts in my country and owners from my country. I saw it on my own eyes that is like it is. And of course I have several videos photos, docu... drawings and technical spacs for parts. Believe or not. And here we have 2 groupe of people. 1 believe in my "infos" and second to your. Maybe we have also third and they believe in something complete different. Deal ?
We will wait for official info and solution but I´m sure that nothing will come... Because there is no problem ? No because just FCA technology and this engine will die with this generation of tonale... New generation will use PSA technology and platforms... same story like junior... And this "issue with timing" will be hiden under carpet... but this is another story with another issues... I also understand that lot of customers will never buy any alfa after this experience... but new customers will come of course and maybe not :-) It is up to each owner what he will feel and do... But in my opinion this is fatal problem in automotive in 21. century same like wet belt in PSA or Ford....

I don't see who you're replying to, but I assume it's because I only have two people on "ignore"
This video wasn't enough proof either, although there were a couple of owners from Italy with a similar problem

 
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Okey I understand that you have different story but I believe to my info and contacts in my country and owners from my country. I saw it on my own eyes that is like it is. And of course I have several videos photos, docu... drawings and technical spacs for parts. Believe or not. And here we have 2 groupe of people. 1 believe in my "infos" and second to your. Maybe we have also third and they believe in something complete different. Deal ?
We will wait for official info and solution but I´m sure that nothing will come... Because there is no problem ? No because just FCA technology and this engine will die with this generation of tonale... New generation will use PSA technology and platforms... same story like junior... And this "issue with timing" will be hiden under carpet... but this is another story with another issues... I also understand that lot of customers will never buy any alfa after this experience... but new customers will come of course and maybe not :-) It is up to each owner what he will feel and do... But in my opinion this is fatal problem in automotive in 21. century same like wet belt in PSA or Ford....
Disamina che nel profondo posso anche condividere ma non è questo il contesto per fare un'analisi del "prima e del dopo".
Solo il tempo darà delle riposte ma, nel mentre, limitiamoci al problema specifico che all'utenza interessano poco i progetti futuri di una casa automobilistica.
Loro (gli utenti) hanno investito denaro e fatto sacrifici: dove andrà FCA/AR/Stellantis interessa meno dello zero assoluto
 
I don't see who you're replying to, but I assume it's because I only have two people on "ignore"
This video wasn't enough proof either, although there were a couple of owners from Italy with a similar problem

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Disamina che nel profondo posso anche condividere ma non è questo il contesto per fare un'analisi del "prima e del dopo".
Solo il tempo darà delle riposte ma, nel mentre, limitiamoci al problema specifico che all'utenza interessano poco i progetti futuri di una casa automobilistica.
Loro (gli utenti) hanno investito denaro e fatto sacrifici: dove andrà FCA/AR/Stellantis interessa meno dello zero assoluto
I understand we both several times told our opinions we will see results in future maybe not
 
I understand we both several times told our opinions we will see results in future maybe not
I think Alfa Romeo will never admit this problem, just like they never admitted the problem with the 2.2 diesel engine in the Stelvio / Giulia, you have hundreds of cases on this forum alone with the oil pressure problem, Alfa has never admitted that problem.
Known problem, workshops are aware of this problem but silence from Alfa Romeo, that's why they are losing the trust of customers all over the world
 
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I think Alfa Romeo will never admit this problem, just like they never admitted the problem with the 2.2 diesel engine in the Stelvio / Giulia, you have hundreds of cases on this forum alone with the oil pressure problem, Alfa has never admitted that problem.
Known problem, workshops are aware of this problem but silence from Alfa Romeo, that's why they are losing the trust of customers all over the world
E' un atteggiamento di tutte le case automobilistiche; Bmw ha mai ammesso il problema alla catena dell'N47?
Evitiamo di continuare con queste argomentazioni (oltretutto assolutamente parziali e di parte) che nulla hanno a che vedere con il merito del problema
La tua opinione su AR è oramai ben conosciuta e consolidata:
 

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